Although each disciple in ISKCON has a unique relationship with his or her Guru, in my observation there are some general characteristics that can be outlined. Firstly, Gurus tend have disciples in many areas of the globe, and rarely do disciples live in close proximity with their Guru for extended periods of time. The primary reason that Gurus and disciples live apart is that Gurus tend to travel, often making disciples in parts of the globe they may only visit a few times a year, if that. The lack of a close connection between Guru and Disciple is also due to the transient nature of our society. It is structured in such a way that people move here and there for their jobs, education, etc. One of the most problematic results of the temporal nature of Guru-Disciple relationships in ISKCON is that Guru tends to mean a preacher of doctrines derived from various sources, but this does not allow him to be a teacher.
I distinguish “teacher” from “preacher” in that the former systematically educates the student in a particular body of knowledge or book over an extended period of time. After being taught the student knows the contents of that body of knowledge, and upon further study is in a position to teach it to others. A preacher on the other hand does not stay with the student for a period of time long enough to complete a series of lectures or classes on an entire book (say, the Bhagavad-gita). Unlike teaching (good teaching that is) preaching is not systematic. A preacher may speak on the basis of inspiration and personal realization rather than merely convening the contents of a book as a teacher does. A preacher often jumps from one text to another, for instance lecturing on the Gétä one night and the Bhagavatam the next day; and this is done even without making the logical connections between texts or topics lectured upon. I say Gurus in ISKCON are preachers because ISKCON Gurus rarely take the time systematically teach a particular book to their students. Rather, most instruction is a unsystematic, bouncing from one book to the next over the course of a few days. I think that this definition and conception of a Guru has been fine for some people in ISKCON, but for others it is inadequate. I do not wish to suggest that preaching is unimportant, but that preaching without teaching is incomplete. From this main problem—preachers without teachers—a number of problematic consequences follow. One is that ISKCON is mainly made up of people whose knowledge of sastra has been collected piecemeal, from a wide range of sources and in an unsystematic manner. Even those ISKCON members getting PhDs or something of that sort were never educated in sastra. Thus, devotee PhDs may know Sanskrit from Indologists, philosophy from the Western philosophers, science from the scientists, etc., but we do not know çästra from the their Guru. Those that do not go into academics are just left with a mish-mash body of information. Another danger is that without a strong foundation in çästra, the worldview of ISKCON will simply float wherever the winds of Western culture thrust it. The worldview might change even without us knowing it, for if there are no Gurus whose knowledge is firmly rooted in sastra, then no one would be able to determine a deviation from a genuine teaching based on çästra. I think we need to introduce into ISKCON the notion that Guru-ship can be more than an itinerate preacher. We need to show that a Guru can also be a systematic resident teacher. We must re-conceptualize the role of the Guru to that of an educator in sastra, or in the very least this conception must be added to the current view.

Interesting blog and blog post.
A few suggestions,
-It would help in readability to
-Break blog post into paragraphs
-Use formatting life Bold to highlight each section
-Consider some smaller blog posts too. Unless you intend your blog to be a place for Essays.
-It would be great to not just cover views, but also highlight something from what you recently read or ran into, say from Gita and your view on it.
And if you ever run into Shrirang in ISKCON, Mumbai or other places, let him know Amit remembers home fondly.
Regards
Amit
pranams.
I hope you don’t mind that I reposted this article on my own blog. I think it raises some mission critical points. We need this type of thinking if we are to go forward in serving the mission of the parampara.
I’d like to ask you what you are doing in your area to address this important concern? Please respond via email if you like.
ys, ekendra das
Dear Amit,
Thank you for the comments. Is this the same Amit I met in France, Rathayatra, somewhere around 2000? If so, it is great to hear from you again.
We have taken your comments seriously, and tried to update our blog accordingly.
Ys, Janakirama dasa
Dear Ekendra prabhu,
I don’t mind at all that you have posted my blog. As to what I am personally doing: At this point I am trying to educate myself, to gain an understanding not only of our own tradition, but the Western intellectual history as well. As from that, I am working with Brahmatirtha prabhu (ie Bob Cohen) as a co-organizer of an email conference for devotee scholars, I co-organize annual conferences in Boston for devotees, and I am developing an scholarly society with other devotees like Drutakarma prabhu, Pranava Prabhu and my wife. When I can, I try to stress the importance of education among devotees.
Thanks again for your comments.
YS, Janakirama dasa
Dear Janakirama,
Thanks for the blog on guruship in ISKCON. I also beleive that the unfolding of our collective understanding of this principle is vital to the long term success of the mission of ISKCON.
I think that the current system of “no objection” given to devotees initiating in ISKCON should be widely expanded, and a local committee of senior Vaisnavas could approve local devotees to initiate in their areas and become guru-teachers, thus being able to fulfil the traditional role of diksha gurus as being “teachers” as you have defined it.
Prabhupada many times said that to be guru is not a “big definition”, one just has to follow the orders of his/her guru and teach others to do the same. amara ajnaya guru hana tara ei desa.
Is your email conference active? If so I would like to participate.
your servant,
Deva Gaura Hari das
Dear Devagaourahari prabhu,
Thank you for your comments. I am glad to hear you also see the development of the ISKCON’s conception of guru in a similar way. In some sense, I think that the “market” could drive the reformation of the guru. If more devotees want gurus who are “teachers” as opposed to mere “preachers” (as I have defined the terms), then I think educators and spiritual leaders will respond to that desire. At this point, then, I would like to see more ISKCON members educated about the importance of having a Vaishnava education, as odd as that sounds.
I do not have a personal email conference, but if you wish to reach me, I’d be happy to hear from you at:
Ys, Janakirama dasa
Genuine gurus,and genuine disciples are rare these days:too much female or small boys’ associations,with massages every night,in the intimacy of luxurious bedrooms,with soft beds,hot showers,and luxurious foods!
After all these falldowns of gurus,Iskcon is just a joke,especially when seen by Indian eyes.
Sastras and the example of Srila Prabhupada teach us that austerity is a must in order to acheive high degree of saintlihood,and some devotees have understood this and are now famous:HG Jayananda das/HG Kusakrata das etc.
It’s not surprising,as it is said that such acheivement is rare:one in millions of humans!
So,if one is serious about spiritual life,he should avoid the association of any pretender,who is just around for name,fame and monetary gains.
Luis,
Generally the responses to my blog have been intelligent and sincere, but this one is not. You can’t make such slanderous accusations about people without providing evidence.
And besides, did you even read my blog posting? Your response seems more like a pre-fabricated rant based on your pent-up rage rather than a reaction to what I said in my blog.
Janaki
very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
Idetrorce
Idetrorece, what precisely don’t you agree with?
Dear all devoters,
we all related that expection breeds frustion and frustation breeds anger,in order to reduce this prolem most priority should be givin to devotion which should come from own heart and soul if any body wants to create artificialy ,it will never happen.Lord srikrishon told on bagabata gita what human beings wants that may not happen because everything is going on according to the instruction and direction of a super power whom we think that God which is invisible spirit.everything can be achived if we give our love that much to this spirit by which we can get a path to way of god only by a media of devotion which is connected with real soul and heart.it is alittle bit knowledge about devotion.